Ce qui/que or qui/que

Question

I understand when to use the qui/que part and have no problem. I cannot wrap my brain around when to use ce qui instead of qui and ce que instead of que can someone explain?

Accepted Answer

ce qui/ce que is used when referring to something mentioned previously, usually before the sentence in question. Sometimes it's a general idea that's being talked about. If, however, you want to refer to a specific noun in the same sentence, you drop the ce.
Mon père me raconte des histoires, que j'aime. -- My father tells me stories that I love.Here, que refers to stories: he is telling me specifically those stories, that I like.
Mon père me raconte des histoires, ce que j'aime. -- My father tells me stories, which I love.In this case, ce que, refers to the general act of story telling, not the stories themselves: I like it when my father tells me stories.

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i have the same problem, even when i think its refering to a noun its not, when i think its a whole idea its not; im getting it wrong every time even though it sounds like it is clear

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i have the same problem, even when i think its refering to a noun its not, when i think its a whole idea its not; im getting it wrong every time even though it sounds like it is clear