Ils n'ont pas de l'habitude / pas "d'habitude" or pas "l'habitude"?

helen

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20 February 2018

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Ils n'ont pas de l'habitude / pas "d'habitude" or pas "l'habitude"?

This relates to:
Du, de la, de l', des all become de or d' in negative sentences (partitive articles) -

helen

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20 February 2018

20/02/18

I'm not sure why when I post questions, the body doesn't post but here's the rest of the question:
I'm thinking that "de" follows pas before nouns( except when using etre.) So would this sentence be correct:

"Ils n'ont pas d'habitude de parler francais." Or should it be "ils n'ont pas de l'habitude de parler francais"? I actually had a French speaker tell me there is no "de" and it's "Ils n'ont pas l'habitude de parler francais. Help!:)

Chris

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21 February 2018

21/02/18

Hi Helen,


"Ils n'ont pas l'habitude de parler français" -- They are not in the habit of speaking French.


You don't use "de" in this case because that would signifiy that what comes after is part of a bigger thing (e.g. "un morceau du gâteau" -- a piece of the cake). Since there isn't something like a "bigger piece of habit" you don't use the preposition "de".


Hope that helps, -- Chris  (not a native speaker).

helen

Kwiziq community member

21 February 2018

21/02/18

Chris, thank you for this. I love the logic about it not being "part of a bigger thing". Would you say the majority of time, we would use "pas de" before a noun?

Chris

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21 February 2018

21/02/18

Yes, definitely. According to this pattern:



"Tu as du lait?" - "Non, je n'ai plus de lait." -- "Do you have some milk?" - No, I have no more milk."


-- Chris. 

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