Is ne...point used for also for emphasis?

Tomas

Kwiziq community member

9 September 2016

7 replies

Is ne...point used for also for emphasis?

I thought that was one of the uses in oral language.

This relates to:
Understanding ne ... point (negation) -

Aurélie

Kwiziq language super star

12 September 2016

12/09/16

Bonjour Tomas ! My guess here is that you heard this: "Je ne veux pas. Point." which actually means "I don't want to. Full stop.", and is indeed a form of emphasis. However, this case has nothing to do with the negative expression "ne...point" :) I hope that's helpful! À bientôt !

Susan

Kwiziq community member

14 November 2016

14/11/16

Tomas and I may have been similarly taught: it was drummed into my head that one used, ne . . . point instead of, ne . . . pas to make a point, so to speak. Given that my French classes were more than 50 years ago, could there have been a change in usage?

Melanie

Kwiziq community member

6 March 2017

6/03/17

I was taught the same in the '70s.

Khoi

Kwiziq community member

26 March 2017

26/03/17

I was also taught the same in the '60s. Even my wife who speaks French fluently and went to French schools from kindergarten also thought the "ne .. .point" construct was used to show emphasis. However she said in modern usage that distinction might no longer exists. For whatever it's worth I would like to share the following comment from Word Forum (https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/ne-%E2%80%A6%E2%80%AFpoint-ne-%E2%80%A6-pas.86492/) : " Point est archaïque, effectivement, et on ne l'utilise donc point, sauf par plaisanterie ou pour faire plus littéraire. Ceci dit, si l'on met de côté cet aspect, pas et point me semblent totalement interchangeables. À l'origine, la négation dite avec point était plus forte que celle exprimée avec pas, mais cette distinction n'est plus faite.".

Max

Kwiziq community member

6 September 2017

6/09/17

My understanding has always been that NE POINT is simply an alternative - similar to WHILE versus WHILST. I find NE POINT sort of quaint and seldom hear it in conversation. I rarely see it in contemporary written French. I have never seen NE POINT used for emphasis.

Max

Kwiziq community member

6 September 2017

6/09/17

My first class was in 1963. POINT for emphasis was not taught at any point. Point!

Max

Kwiziq community member

6 September 2017

6/09/17

Merci d'avoir fait le point.....

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