se fait faire

Laura C.C1Kwiziq community member

se fait faire

pourquoi on dit

Je me suis fait faire les ongles la semaine dernière.I had my nails done last week.

Mais  pour "I had my hair brushed."

On dit "Je me suis fait brosser les cheveux," et pas "Je me suis fait faire brosser les cheveux." ?  merci


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Asked 3 weeks ago
Maarten K.C1Kwiziq Q&A super contributorCorrect answer

Laura, this structure with a ‘ doubling up’ as  ‘ se ( fait ) faire ‘ only arises when the reflexive verb is ‘ se faire ‘. 

Note that the ‘ causative ‘ faire’ is the conjugated verb form ‘ fait ‘, so when the reflexive verb is, for example, ‘ se brosser ‘, the result is se (fait) brosser ‘ but when the reflexive verb is se faire, the result is ‘ se ( fait) faire ‘.

The link below is to a previous response to a different but related question and may help.

 https://french.kwiziq.com/questions/view/faire-de-nouvelles-sandales-1

Laura C.C1Kwiziq community member

okay thanks: the brushing is itself the action, so no need to add a "faire" but you need faire with the nails because the nails are not the action, DOING the nails is the action. Thanks for your help.

Laura C.C1Kwiziq community member

okay, me again: (sorry to be so stupid about this!!)

so the brushing is the action so don't need "fait faire", but the nails aren't the action, DOING the nails is the action, so do need fait faire. BUT in the example below, the "makeup" isn't the action, DOING the make up is the action, so why isn't it se fait faire maquiller?

Il ________ .He's having his make-up done.(HINT: maquiller quelqu'un = to do someone's make-up)se fait maquillerse fait faire maquiller
Laura C.C1Kwiziq community member

okay, me again: (sorry to be so stupid about this!!)

so the brushing is the action so don't need "fait faire", but the nails aren't the action, DOING the nails is the action, so do need fait faire. BUT in the example below, the "makeup" isn't the action, DOING the make up is the action, so why isn't it se fait faire maquiller?

Il ________ .He's having his make-up done.(HINT: maquiller quelqu'un = to do someone's make-up)se fait maquillerse fait faire maquiller
Laura C. asked:

se fait faire

pourquoi on dit

Je me suis fait faire les ongles la semaine dernière.I had my nails done last week.

Mais  pour "I had my hair brushed."

On dit "Je me suis fait brosser les cheveux," et pas "Je me suis fait faire brosser les cheveux." ?  merci


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