il n'en est venu aucun.......??

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il n'en est venu aucun.......??

Bonjour,

I found very interesting sentence causing me a headache.... "Il n'en est venu aucun".

According to lessons, the sentence is negated by placing the two parts of the negation on each side of the auxiliary verb (avoir or être) in a compound sentence like the passé..

However, as you can see in this sentence,  one part of negation, "aucun" is located at the end of sentence. And I found this sentence from a dictionary and so there must be no grammer problem...

I've been searching and googling for hours but did not get any to understand the sentence...So, May I ask someone to kindly explain this please?

Thank you so much in advance!

Asked 3 days ago
ChrisC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor Correct answer

The pronoun aucun has two functions in this sentence: 1) together with ne it forms part of the negation, 2) it is the subject pronoun of the sentence. Personne, rien, and aucun can have these double roles, whereas pas and jamais cannot.

When a negating particle also functions as a pronoun in a sentence, the word order changes.

You may find this explanation helpful: https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/negative-pronouns/

@Cécile: I think this warrants an explanation if not a separate lesson. The examples given in the lesson for aucun are not consistent either:

Nous n'avons acheté aucune voiture.

The placement of aucune doesn't follow the usual negation rules for compound tenses.

SiB1Kwiziq community member

Greatly appreciate for the explanation, Chris !

Now I understand why "aucun" is located at the end.  

il n'en est venu aucun.......??

Bonjour,

I found very interesting sentence causing me a headache.... "Il n'en est venu aucun".

According to lessons, the sentence is negated by placing the two parts of the negation on each side of the auxiliary verb (avoir or être) in a compound sentence like the passé..

However, as you can see in this sentence,  one part of negation, "aucun" is located at the end of sentence. And I found this sentence from a dictionary and so there must be no grammer problem...

I've been searching and googling for hours but did not get any to understand the sentence...So, May I ask someone to kindly explain this please?

Thank you so much in advance!

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