Why is it sometimes before the noun and sometimes after when used as an adjective? And I see some patterns in it's placement as an adverb but if you have any advice on that as well that would be great.
The adjective 'même', if placed before the noun means same/identical
Nous avons la même taille en vert = We have the same size in green
C'est toujours la même chose = It's always the same thing
Placed after the noun, it means, itself, very, actual
Il est la générosité même = He is generosity itself (personified)
Ce sont ses paroles mêmes =These are his very/actual words
Not to be confused with the adverb même which means 'even'
Il a même osé me dire... = He even dared to tell me ...
Même s'il revient, je ne lui parlerai pas = Even if he comes back, I won't talk to him
Hope this helps!
Do you have an example?
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