Are these really equivalent?

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Kevin

Kwiziq community member

28 February 2018

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Kevin

Kwiziq community member

28 February 2018

28/02/18

I keep seeing material that talks about the importance of distinguishing between them: Dont for a phrasal verb : Le livre dont je t'ai parlé Duquel/etc. for prepositions : Le livre au-dessus duquel j'ai renversé mon café

Chris

Kwiziq community member

28 February 2018

28/02/18

The distinction is a pretty complicated matter and depends also on the register you are using. Here is a page which explains it and also offers a little test in the end to check your understanding: https://www.francaisfacile.com/exercices/exercice-francais-2/exercice-francais-105504.php

-- Chris (not a native speaker)

Kevin

Kwiziq community member

28 February 2018

28/02/18

Thank you, Chris!  I did look at the Français Facile page the other day, which is why I was surprised to see the two possibiities described as equivalent.  

Chris

Kwiziq community member

6 March 2018

6/03/18

I don't see them as interchangeably equivalent. They serve a similar purpose but in some instances you need one where you can't substitute the other. I believe the site to which I postet the link in my previous post explains it pretty well.

-- Chris (not a native speaker).

Kevin

Kwiziq community member

7 March 2018

7/03/18

Thanks!

Lesley

Kwiziq community member

28 August 2018

28/08/18

I would like to see this question answered by one of the site teachers as the usage presented in this lesson does not seem consistent with that presented in sites such the link offered by Chris, nor with texts such as Grammaire progressive du Français.

Cécile

Kwiziq language super star

29 August 2018

29/08/18

Hi everyone,

I don't think 'dont ' and 'duquel' are always interchangeable.

In the examples given in the lesson , the verbs all use de :

avoir envie de , avoir peur de, parler de, avoir besoin de ...

In thoses cases you can use any of the possibilities suggested .

Hope this helps!

Robin

Kwiziq community member

2 January 2019

2/01/19

It would be nice to be able to refer to a list of verbs that use prepositions. 

Cécile

Kwiziq language super star

3 January 2019

3/01/19

Hi Robin,

It is in my To-Do list....

Bill

Kwiziq community member

17 January 2019

17/01/19

Here's one!  Not exhaustive of course, but has a lot of verbs.

https://www.thoughtco.com/french-verbs-with-prepositions-p2-1364548

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