how to avoid the plus-que-parfaitI want to translate the following into French:
When I had signed the letter, Maurice mailed it.
I would write this: "Quand j'avais signé la lettre, Maurice l'a envoyée."
What I want to do is avoid the pluperfect in the subordinate clause. l reached for the usual stand-by "Après avoir/être + past participe" but that will not work here, as there are two subjects (I have always used "Après avoir ..." in the context of there otherwise being one subject) and "Après avoir signé la lettre, Maurice l'a envoyée" means "After having signed the letter, Maurice mailed it" but it also means that Maurice both signed it and mailed it.
That is inescapable because "Après avoir/être ...", a hanging participle/dangling modifier, lacks a subject, which is provided in a sentence by the first noun in the main clause, thus there is no doubt as to who signed it - it's Maurice because of the operation of that principle. (At least, that's the case in English; if French is somehow different, please tell me.)
I then tried "Après que ..." but I still end up with the pluperfect because inescapably the signing of the letter is complete and precedes the posting of it by Maurice. Then I thought to use the passive, but that seems generally to be anathema to the French and it is really clumsy to try it here. Then I thought to change the exact English formulation of the sentence and use "J'ai signé la lettre et puis Maurice l'a envoyée" but I don't think that that helps (nor is it correct). The signing precedes and is complete before Maurice's action and I keep ending up with the obvious - passé composé for Maurice's action and plus-que-parfait for the action that preceded it (signing).
On reflection, I suspect that I can only resort to the passive to solve this problem:
Maurice a envoyé la lettre qui avait été signé par moi.
(It doesn't matter to me that the passive is anathema to the French; this is just part of a grammar exercise.)
Do you think that that is correct or am I missing something in my quest?
Any solution please, other than the passive, to re-write the original in a way that avoids using the pluperfect in the subordinate clause?
In the C1 writing exercise The King Cake, there is the phrase ‘ he or she will name out loud each person, who will then be given a piece of galette’.
The recommended translation of ‘who will then be given’ is ‘à qui on donnera ensuite’.
You could also say ‘à laquelle on donnera’ ?
Why is 'penser a' here, but not 'penser de' (opinion). Wouldn't it might be good to know that in addition to 'y' for a clause with 'a'; that 'en' for a clause with 'de' is appropriate (and, I think, clearer than just another 'le')?
[Sorry, I can't seem to do the accents, as needed.]
Mon chien favorit s'appelait Pip. Why the imparfait here? It seems a simple statement, neither ongoing, repeated nor descriptive. It doesn't seem to fulfill any of the criteria of the imparfait.
what should we use with piscine sur or dans
I want to translate the following into French:
When I had signed the letter, Maurice mailed it.
I would write this: "Quand j'avais signé la lettre, Maurice l'a envoyée."
What I want to do is avoid the pluperfect in the subordinate clause. l reached for the usual stand-by "Après avoir/être + past participe" but that will not work here, as there are two subjects (I have always used "Après avoir ..." in the context of there otherwise being one subject) and "Après avoir signé la lettre, Maurice l'a envoyée" means "After having signed the letter, Maurice mailed it" but it also means that Maurice both signed it and mailed it.
That is inescapable because "Après avoir/être ...", a hanging participle/dangling modifier, lacks a subject, which is provided in a sentence by the first noun in the main clause, thus there is no doubt as to who signed it - it's Maurice because of the operation of that principle. (At least, that's the case in English; if French is somehow different, please tell me.)
I then tried "Après que ..." but I still end up with the pluperfect because inescapably the signing of the letter is complete and precedes the posting of it by Maurice. Then I thought to use the passive, but that seems generally to be anathema to the French and it is really clumsy to try it here. Then I thought to change the exact English formulation of the sentence and use "J'ai signé la lettre et puis Maurice l'a envoyée" but I don't think that that helps (nor is it correct). The signing precedes and is complete before Maurice's action and I keep ending up with the obvious - passé composé for Maurice's action and plus-que-parfait for the action that preceded it (signing).
On reflection, I suspect that I can only resort to the passive to solve this problem:
Maurice a envoyé la lettre qui avait été signé par moi.
(It doesn't matter to me that the passive is anathema to the French; this is just part of a grammar exercise.)
Do you think that that is correct or am I missing something in my quest?
Any solution please, other than the passive, to re-write the original in a way that avoids using the pluperfect in the subordinate clause?
May have found a missing translation. I put "j'ai choisi de passer le reste de la nuit dans les buissons de Mme. Maron !" and was marked wrong, but "j'ai décidé de passer le reste de la nuit dans les buissons de Mme Maron !" and "j'ai choisi de finir la nuit dans les buissons de Mme Maron !" are accepted translations.
Hello,
I see there's an example: "Quels bonbons tu as choisis?"
I guess that because "bonbons" is a COD in this question and it stands before the verb "choisi" so the verb has to accord with the COD --> it becomes "chosis"
But when I use deepL to try another example: "Which dress did she wear?"
The answer is: "Quelle robe a-t-elle porté?"
My question is shouldn't it be: "Quelle robe a-t-elle portée?"
Or is there an exception I didn't know about? More examples relating to this is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
Why does the "Hint" have: "-'it' = l'hotel", but considers "L'hotel..." as incorrect? I originally used "Il..." (considered correct) and changed it due to the hint!
The exercise skipped forward several times before I could grade myself. Some sort of glitch in the system, or did I do something wrong inadvertently?
Adding the passé simple to the picture is such a pain in the neck, really!!! Can I use un combattre in stead of une bataille to the final sentence of the story.
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